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FRASER, John
(About 1218-Before 1263)
DE CUNIGBURG, Alicia
(About 1220-)
FRASER, Richard of Touch-fraser, Sheriff of Berwick on Tweed, Sir
(About 1242-Before 1321)
FRASER, Andrew Sheriff of Stirling, Sir
(About 1265-1297)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. LE CHEN, Possible Daughter

FRASER, Andrew Sheriff of Stirling, Sir 2 3

  • Born: About 1265
  • Marriage (1): LE CHEN, Possible Daughter 1
  • Died: by 1297, probably in Flanders 2

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  General Notes:

"Sir Andrew Fraser, ? Vicecomes de Stirling, 1293. Died v.p. probably in Flanders, 1297."

"The position of son to Sir Richard has therefore been accorded to this Sir Andrew Fraser in these pages upon the foregoing grounds, and whatever credit that conclusion may be held to deserve, at all events the succession to Touch-fraser shows that his eldest son Alexander was Sir Richard's nearest relation and heir at the date of the decease of the latter."

from Frasers of Philorth




"ANDREW FRASER. Lord Saltoun shows that this Andrew is not to be confounded with Sir Andrew Fraser, son of Sir Gilbert, as some genealogists have supposed, and though there is no documentary proof of his parentage, there is no doubt that he was a very close relation of Sir Richard's, as his son Alexander was Sir Richard's successor in the lands of Touch Fraser."

from Scots Peerage 1 2


Andrew married Possible Daughter LE CHEN, daughter of Sir Reginald II LE CHEN 3rd of Inverugie, and of Duffus and Straloch and Mary DE MORAVIA of Duffus.1 (Possible Daughter LE CHEN was born about 1271.)


  Marriage Notes:

" .... a fragment of information still extant .... affords some clue by which (his wife's) family can be traced ....
This fragment of information is in the shape of a charter from David II, dated October 18th, 1363,1 which recites royal letters granted by Robert i. on the 6th of November 1312, declaring that nothing in the agreements ordered or arranged by the king between Lady Mary, widow of the late Sir Reginald le Chen, and Alexander Fraser, concerning the lands of Duffus, should prejudice the status of inheritance of Lady Mary in those lands, or in any way be construed into her disinheritance of them. And the charter from David II confirms the above royal letters in favour of Lady Mary's heirs, giving them the same force and validity as they had during
his father's reign.

It is evident that Alexander Fraser, who was Sir Andrew Fraser's son, had claims upon the property of the le Chen family in 1312 that were so far legal and just as to be recognised by King Robert, and made the subject of agreement by his order ; and the necessity of the royal letters to protect the hereditary rights of Lady Mary, upon that agreement being made, implies that those claims were also of an hereditary nature."

from Frasers of Philorth




"His (Andrew Fraser's) wife, whose name is not known, though it is probable that she belonged to the family of le Chen of Duffus, had property in Caithness ; by her he had four sons ... (Alexander, Andrew, Simon and James)"

from Scots Peerage (vol 7) 1 2

Sources


1 e-books, The Scots Peerage ed. Sir James Balfour Paul vol. 7 (1910).

2 e-books, The Frasers of Philorth vol.1 by Alexander Fraser (1879).

3 e-books, The Family of Hay by Charles J. Colcock (1908).

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